BITCOIN: Max Keiser Orange Pills Tucker Carlson [eng/срп] БИТКОИН: Макс Кајзер даје Такеру Карлсону наранџасту пилулу

over 2 years ago (Edited)

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Are you panicking about the drop in dollar value of Bitcoin? That means you haven’t learned enough about it yet…

And if you wanted to learn, who would you invite to your show? There are two men you cannot bypass in this consideration. The first is certainly Andreas M. Antonopoulos, an expert in computer systems security and a man who has an extraordinary ability to explain to a total tech layman how the Bitcoin network works.

But if he would not be available to you, and if the topic were crypto scams, the second best choice is Max Keiser, a former broker and insider from the Wall Street – the Empire of financial scams!

The FTX affair caused a great ripple in the world of cryptocurrencies and the drastic fall of Bitcoin, which was once again declared by the malicious media to be the ‘doom’ and ‘death’ of the entire industry. It’s not the first time we’ve heard this nonsense, the fifth hyperwave is underway. But with each new hyperwave, more and more people learn what Bitcoin is, why it is indestructible, and why it is the best bet for the survival of the human race and civilization.

One of the people learning is Fox News anchor Tucker Carlson, who invited Max Keiser to explain the situation surrounding crypto scams, the FTX exchange and Sam Bankman Fried. An excellent show. This is an essential watch.

Паничите ли због доларског пада вредности биткоина? То значи да још нисте довољно научили о њему…

А ако бисте желели да учите, кога бисте позвали у своју емисију? Постоје два човека које не можете заобићи у овом разматрању. Први је свакако Андреас М. Антонопулос, стручњак за безбедност рачунарских система и човек који има изванредну способност да и потпуном техно лаику објасни како функционише биткоин мрежа.

Али ако вам он не би био доступан, и ако би тема била крипто преваре, други најбољи избор је Макс Кајзер, бивши брокер и инсајдер са Волстрита – царства финансијских превара!

Афера FTX изазвала је велико таласање у свету криптовалута и пад биткоина који су опет злонамерни медији прогласили за ‘пропаст’ и ‘смрт’ читаве индустрије. Није први пут да слушамо ове глупости, у току је пети хиперталас. Али са сваким новим хиперталасом, све више људи учи шта је биткоин, зашто је неуништив, и зашто је он најбољи залог опстанка људске расе и цивилизације.

Један од људи који уче је и Такер Карлсон, водитељ на Фоксњузу. Он је позвао Макса Кајзера да објасни ситуацију око крипто превара, мењачнице FTX и Сема Бенкман-Фрида. Изванредна емисија. Обавезно гледање.

Orange grenade for Tucker. Duration / Трајање: 1:02:34

If you’ve been following this blog, you've probably learned the same thing Max will tell you: “Every cryptocurrency exchange failure is a step forward for Bitcoin. It is a technology designed to eliminate the middleman between people.” Once you accept it, you will no longer need banks, exchange offices, or government control institutions. You will only need other people.

I’m sorry I don’t have a Serbian translation, if a subtitled video appears, I’ll upload it again. In the meantime, if it gets removed from YouTube, you can find and download it from the Bastyon.com platform:

Ако пратите овај блог свакако сте досад могли сазнати исто оно што ће вам и Макс рећи: „Свака пропаст криптомењачница корак је напред за биткоин. То је технологија направљена да укине посредника између људи.“ Кад га прихватите, више вам неће требати ни банке, ни мењачнице, ни државне контролне институције. Биће вам потребни једино други људи.

Жао ми је што немам српски превод, ако се појави титловани видео поставићу га поново. У међувремену, ако буде уклоњен са јутјуба, можете га наћи и преузети са платформе Bastyon:

Max at Bastyon. Duration / Трајање: 1:02:34

If we get lucky, we’ll soon celebrate another collapse of the big fraudulent cryptocurrency exchanges…

Ако буде среће, прославићемо ускоро још неку пропаст великих преварантских крипто мењачница…

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42 comments

@pixresteemer 71

over 2 years ago

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@sunlit7 63

over 2 years ago

If we get lucky, we’ll soon celebrate another collapse of the big fraudulent cryptocurrency exchanges…

Why? The talk was relative to making it stronger by attacking it not the exchanges, obviously the exchanges are easier or more vulnerable to attacks. From what I am getting is that if bitcoin is sitting on the exchange they can get to it but if it's in a wallet or cold storage they can't. Another thing I wasn't completely understanding was him saying when asked about the truckers getting their stuff frozen he said it wasn't the bitcoin, they can't get at that, they closed down the avenues people had to get at their wallets. Basically what's the difference they still stopped access. Doesn't matter they couldn't technically take the bitcoin but you'd have to have the ability to like go to a different country and use another avenue to get at it unless that country worked in conjunction to also stop access. This video opened more questions than it answered really. Like if they went to the China model of digital currency and told you you had so many days to spend your money or it'd go poof. They said that'd give them a way to track what you do with your money also. So say you wanted to use it to buy bitcoin so they couldn't make your money go poof but what if they by tracking you found out you were going to buy bitcoin and somehow stopped you.

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@valued-customer 74

over 2 years ago

Yes.

Basically, if it's not your keys it's not your crypto, and access to your crypto is a key.

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@sunlit7 63

over 2 years ago

Yes to what question I was asking. I know the part not your keys not your crypto, they were even told that in Canada but they still were able to block access to it. The guy even said that in the video, they can't take the crypto per se but they blocked their access to it.

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@geneeverett 75

over 2 years ago

They cannot block access to ur bitcoin. Only to fiat on and off ramps.

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@sunlit7 63

over 2 years ago

So are you saying if the person tries to convert the crypto to cash than that is how they blocked it?

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@valued-customer 74

over 2 years ago

"...access to your crypto is a key..."

A key that opens any lock is a master key. A lock that opens to any key isn't a lock at all. Money you can't spend isn't money.

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@lighteye 76

over 2 years ago

Another thing I wasn't completely understanding was him saying when asked about the truckers getting their stuff frozen he said it wasn't the bitcoin, they can't get at that, they closed down the avenues people had to get at their wallets. Basically what's the difference they still stopped access. Doesn't matter they couldn't technically take the bitcoin but you'd have to have the ability to like go to a different country and use another avenue to get at it unless that country worked in conjunction to also stop access.

Truckers were not stopped by stopping their bitcoin help, but with brute force. That is the last resort of a government scoundrels, @sunlit7.

This video opened more questions than it answered really. Like if they went to the China model of digital currency and told you you had so many days to spend your money or it'd go poof. They said that'd give them a way to track what you do with your money also. So say you wanted to use it to buy bitcoin so they couldn't make your money go poof but what if they by tracking you found out you were going to buy bitcoin and somehow stopped you.

Bitcoin eliminates all of that. And they can’t track you if you know how to use it.

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@sunlit7 63

over 2 years ago

Truckers were not stopped by stopping their bitcoin help, but with brute force. That is the last resort of a government scoundrels, @sunlit7.

I realize that part.

Bitcoin eliminates all of that. And they can’t track you if you know how to use it.

I don't know much, actually I don't know anything at all about bitcoin or how it operates. When they say crypto is open source ledger I am assuming anyone can see what's in your wallet they just can't gain access to it. Overall in the video the guy said they did stop them from getting access to it. It may have not been what stopped them but it still does tend to seem to imply they have other ways to deny access to the bitcoin.

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@lighteye 76

over 2 years ago

Overall in the video the guy said they did stop them from getting access to it. It may have not been what stopped them but it still does tend to seem to imply they have other ways to deny access to the bitcoin.

Stopping the access is only possible if funds are kept by someone else – exchange, bank, payment system, or any other middleman. If you keep your bitcoin keys nobody can access your bitcoin or deny access to your bitcoin @sunlit7.

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@geneeverett 75

over 2 years ago

Other ways? Nope, ur guessing and speculating friend. Respectfully u aren’t making sense. Bitcoin wasn’t stopped by government. Centralized Fiat on and off ramps were. Bitcoin wasn’t at all!

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@valued-customer 74

over 2 years ago

"Centralized Fiat on and off ramps were. Bitcoin wasn’t at all!"

What's the difference? My point is that money you can't use isn't money.

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@geneeverett 75

over 2 years ago

Difference is u can’t use fiat
U can use bitcoin. If by money u mean government currency you are correct they can shut down all the centralized systems. Can still trade in cash.

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@valued-customer 74

over 2 years ago

I can only pay my rent in cash. Currently I have that managed by having others pay it. Crypto does not solve this problem until I can pay my rent with it. It isn't money.

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@sunlit7 63

over 2 years ago

I can't guess and speculate at something I've already said I have no knowledge of what so ever. Listen to the video, Carlson ask him right out about the Canadian government and the truckers crypto, how did they do that. The guys reply was they didn't shut down the persons account, they blocked access to it. Don't ask me, I am as confused as anyone, but that's what the guy said.

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@valued-customer 74

over 2 years ago

The centralization of exchanges and the lightning network is why I have no BTC, nor use any crypto as money. When I can exchange crypto without KYC I will use it.

Thanks!

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@lighteye 76

over 2 years ago

The centralization of exchanges and the lightning network is why I have no BTC

What’s the problem with lightning network, @valued-customer?

When I can exchange crypto without KYC I will use it.

You can do it now. You only need another man who doesn’t want centralized exchanges and KYC.

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@valued-customer 74

over 2 years ago

It requires trusted parties. Your crypto is actually held by those parties for you when using the lightning network.

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@lighteye 76

over 2 years ago

No, you have misunderstood the idea, @valued-customer. Settlement level is bitcoin network, and the lightning network operators are tied to the settlement with their own crypto assets. It is completely safe.

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@valued-customer 74

over 2 years ago

I deeply respect your intelligence, but it is not completely safe. The lightning network operators presently have greater incentive to complete transactions than to commit fraud, but as we can see from various corporations going woke, other values can surmount financial for specific reasons.

Needing to trust belies the purpose of crypto. Malevolent actors can commit fraud on the lightning network, and eventually will.

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@lighteye 76

over 2 years ago

Please @valued-customer, see how the system functions. It is not possible to commit a fraud on lightning network, because the transactions are limited by the invested assets from the operators. It is not a trust based system.

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@valued-customer 74

over 2 years ago

All they have to do to derail the network is forfeit their assets on the network. That was the point I was making regarding corporations going woke despite going broke. I have personally experienced banks doing this to my assets despite losing money to do so, because they have other tax and financial mechanisms to recoup those losses.

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@lighteye 76

over 2 years ago

You are deeply wrong comparing banks & lighting network. It is not possible to ‘forfeit assets’ in the open channel on the network. You should see how the system works, then talk about it.

And even if by some miracle that would be possible, you are never forced to use lighting network. It is mostly used for a quick an tiny transactions like a coffee bill, so you are never in danger of losing everything.

You are simply deeply disinformed @valued-customer. See who has done that to you.

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@valued-customer 74

over 2 years ago

You pointed out that fraud on the lightning network was impossible because the transactions are limited to the funds of the network operators. This is my understanding of how the network functions as well. However, if the operators are willing to abandon the funds on the network, they can do whatever they want to the funds a transactor puts in their wallets. In this way they can prevent transactions from being executed, despite that they will not profit from the transaction they have disrupted, and in fact will lose access to the funds they have on the network should they do this.

The network operators use their funds to execute pseudotransactions that avoid mining fees, and since it is their funds they are using, they can just lie and do something else than they agree to. The funds they have committed to the network so they can provide the pseudotransactions would be forfeited should they do this, so they will not do so without some compelling reason. But, one man's trifle is another's existential crisis.

Fraud is NEVER impossible, my friend.

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@lighteye 76

over 2 years ago

No, @valued-customer, this what you describe is not possible. Where did you find this? Can you send a link to the source of your claims?

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@valued-customer 74

over 2 years ago

I learned how the lightning network would work from the discussion surrounding it's proposal and formation.

I am quite confident that the network operators use their private funds to enable microtransactions to occur without necessitating miners validating each transaction. Since it's their money they can play games with it as I related.

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@geneeverett 75

over 2 years ago

U can. I don’t KYC and I’m here on Hive. It’s more annoying but it’s not necessary at all. Especially with bitcoin. Ur waiting for something that’s already here

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@valued-customer 74

over 2 years ago (Edited)

I'm here too. However, converting Hive to fiat requires some centralized exchange. I am unaware of any means of exchanging crypto for monies I can pay my rent with that don't require KYC. My rent can only be paid in cash presently. They don't take any kind of card.

I have some interest in Rune, but remain skeptical anything nominal will come of it.

Edit: it's possible to arrange something through private parties, but that requires trust, which leaves the promise of trustless transactions crypto is based on unfulfilled.

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@geneeverett 75

over 2 years ago

I agree it’s many extra hoops and a pain for sure. I was sleepy this morning, sorry for not going into detail. When blocktrades went full KYC it became much more work for me.

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@lighteye 76

over 2 years ago

I advise people not to access crypto exchanges, @valued-customer. But the problem is, that you expect SOMEONE ELSE start accepting accepting bitcoin (or any crypto), and then you will start using it. That is not the way things work. Bitcoin is a people’s money. First, you can start offering your work for crypto. For example, a several years ago, I was still working a sidejob as a book designer. And I gave my offer in euros, and if someone would want to pay with bitcoin, he would get a discount.

You just need other people with crypto, and not exchange or bank or the government regulators. And you have whole states working with crypto today. El Salvador, for example. Venezuela and Iran already make their settlements in bitcoin.

You don’t wait for others. You start first and become a vanguard.

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@valued-customer 74

over 2 years ago

I hope you have had a Merry Christmas, my friend.

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@saltycat 69

over 2 years ago

Max Keiser put me onto BTC back in 2012 for which I am grateful. However, I find his Bitcoin maximalism rather toxic and off putting. There are plenty of good crypto projects out there which have real utility.

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over 2 years ago

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@lighteye 76

over 2 years ago

I find his Bitcoin maximalism rather toxic and off putting.

This implies he said something wrong, @saltycat. What would that be in your opinion?

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@saltycat 69

over 2 years ago

I have heard Max on numerous occasions dismiss all other crypto projects as scams and that only BTC has any utility. This seems like a rather narrow attitude to take.

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@lighteye 76

over 2 years ago

It’s true, @saltycat, Max Keiser is right. You have Bitcoin (with just a handful of forks and derivatives like Litecoin) as the true blockchain, and a massive pool of fraud calling them blockchain. They are not. Here are the criteria:

https://hive.blog/hive-122315/@lighteye/bitcoin-blockchainisation-of-the-russian-elections-engsrp-bitkoin-blokcheinizacija-ruskih-izbora

For more technical details on bitcoin you have to listen to Andreas M. Antonopoulos.

And for more details on the economic consequences of bitcoin, do not miss Professor Saifedean Ammous.

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over 2 years ago

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over 2 years ago

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@geneeverett 75

over 2 years ago

Eh not many, crypto projects I mean. I can count three outta thousands that are decentralized. I agree on Max’s attitude on this but he’s 99% right.

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@geneeverett 75

over 2 years ago

This was a great conversation! Tucker really weeks legit often.

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BITCOIN: Max Keiser Orange Pills Tucker Carlson [eng/срп] БИТКОИН: Макс Кајзер даје Такеру Карлсону наранџасту пилулу

Are you panicking about the drop in dollar value of Bitcoin? That means you haven’t learned enough about it yet…

Паничите ли због доларског пада вредности биткоина? То значи да још нисте довољно научили о њему…

Orange grenade for Tucker. Duration / Трајање: 1:02:34

Max at Bastyon. Duration / Трајање: 1:02:34

If we get lucky, we’ll soon celebrate another collapse of the big fraudulent cryptocurrency exchanges…

Ако буде среће, прославићемо ускоро још неку пропаст великих преварантских крипто мењачница…

December 13th, 2022. 02:30 CETXe.com: BTC to Gold Ounce1 BTC = 9.637 oz

Never forget Julian Assange was the first to expose global criminalsНе заборавите да је Џулијан Асанж први разоткрио глобалнe злочинце

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December 13th, 2022. 02:30 CET
Xe.com: BTC to Gold Ounce
1 BTC = 9.637 oz

Never forget Julian Assange was the first to expose global criminals
Не заборавите да је Џулијан Асанж први разоткрио глобалнe злочинце